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Nikolai Pavlov's avatar

Thank you for summarizing the dynamics of deterioration and the current state of the mental health field. I grew up in Soviet Russia, and when the Iron Curtain fell, I got the chance to study psychotherapy from old-school professionals who came from the West to train our psychotherapists. I mean, I was too young, of course. But I got trained by the first wave of professionals, originally trained in the old way. They were also pretty sick of any ideology and passed the spirit of true liberalism to the next generation of therapists. I received my training in Russia in the late 2000s and came to Canada in 2017. I couldn't believe the level of ideological erosion in the mental health field. It is a Soviet state level of indoctrination and coercion.

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Sally Satel's avatar

Dear Nikolai - I very much appreciate your comment. It's really almost impossible to believe that "therapists" actually behave this way. To resemble Soviet practices is chilling. Best, Sally

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Sally Satel's avatar

wow...if that person is interested in talking about her experience, kindly give her my email

slsatel@gmail.com

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Sally Satel's avatar

So well put. Agree. 1000000%

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Sally Satel's avatar

Hard to fathom how they cannot see it. Thanks for your efforts!

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ARG's avatar

I’m a psychiatrist that trained nearly 20 years ago at a program that was heavily influenced by analytically trained faculty. I have been shocked to find that the values which guided clinician behavior in the therapeutic relationship have been eroded to this degree. I blame the move away from our psychoanalytic/psychodynamic roots as responsible for the failure of these training programs to instill in young therapists the necessary humility. All pursuits in the relationship between the therapist and the patient should serve the interest of the patient. The therapist receives a fee and nothing else, besides a basic level of physical safety and common respect. The social justice model obliterates this entire framework and subjugates the patient’s needs in favor of the therapist’s. It is completely fucked up and tragic beyond words.

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Hazel-rah's avatar

Incredible!

That a profession could be so heavily damaged, so relatively rapidly, by the changing politics of its trainers and teachers and practitioners.

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Lisa Simeone's avatar

Very disturbing -- if unsurprising -- account. Ideological indoctrination, of whatever stripe, is fundamentally coercive and ILliberal. I wish I could get some of my fellow liberals to see that.

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brianne fitzgerald's avatar

Troubling beyond comprehension. I am feeling it as a psych NP and a therapist who does not espouse all of the encompassing and overarching values of harm reduction in a very liberal city

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Eleganta's avatar

You know what's glaringly missing from this psychological framework of oppression?

Misogyny. As in: singling out *white women* to insult, in the context of oppression.

The CSJT proponents somehow magically manage to ignore the most violent and widely-practiced oppression--by an astronomical margin--in the entire history of the human race.

What a surprise.

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Heather's avatar

I actually know someone who graduated from the UT Knoxville social work graduate program. They currently work for an organization that is supposed to help underprivileged families get housing, and they're in a role that's specifically meant to provide support for the families. They've said before that they don't actually care about whether the kids get better or not, they just want to radicalize them.

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